06.01.2008

VanceS contributed 269 messages, 18 emotes during 149 minutes. 2008.01.06 04:07:40 Login Room: VirtualVance VanceS joined the room. VanceS left the room. Room: TI_Reception VanceS joined the room. DennisOl: Bem! JoaoA: Ah... so it's here VanceS slides in to home plate DennisOl: E obrigado! VanceS . o O ( SAFE ) DennisOl: Hey, Vance! DennisOl: João was just asking about you. JoaoA: Hi Vance VanceS speaks through a clowd of brushed soil "hey howzit" DennisOl: It's good by me. How about you? VanceS: sorry couldn't resist the theatrics DennisOl chuckles VanceS: just having F.U.N. DennisOl: Frivolous . . . VanceS changes from cleats to sandals VanceS: ya VanceS: Hey Dennis, I've organized my grammar site thanks to you DennisOl: Unadulterated . . . DennisOl: Great! VanceS: cleaned up now more or less VanceS: probably less VanceS: but all the links work JoaoA: I have had a look at it. It's great as usual. Lots of great stuff DennisOl: Nothing wrong with a little "free-form organization." VanceS: it does get dated VanceS: being static, web 1.0 DennisOl: Yes, definitely. Some sites disappear, others change their URLs. DennisOl: I know all about "dated." VanceS: LOL DennisOl: I did a long links list years ago for Arizona TESOL. It's called "A Basic ESOL Webliography." DennisOl: Keeping current on those links is a pain. DennisOl: I'm sure 20 to 30% of them need to be revised right now. VanceS: I got mail from ERIC VanceS: did you get anything like that? DennisOl: No. VanceS: they want to digitize their collection DennisOl: They're well on the way to that already. VanceS: wanted my permission to digitize stuff from the 80's VanceS: which I granted of course DennisOl: Hmm. Very interesting. DennisOl: Of course! LeanneMM joined the room. DennisOl: Leanne! DennisOl: Muchos abrazos! LeanneMM: GOod morning, gents! VanceS: but who will ever read an annotated bibliography on CALL c. 1985 VanceS: Hi Leanne JoaoA: Hello Leanne LeanneMM hugs all around DennisOl: Plenty of people. Researchers, for example. VanceS: where are you now? LeanneMM: A belated Happy New Year to you all VanceS: I can always check technorati and see VanceS: that's how I can find Leanne JoaoA: Thank you. For you, too LeanneMM: Bacalar Quintana ROo Mexico DennisOl: ¿Cómo estas haciendo Calvin y El Supergato? LeanneMM: Calvin is sleeping, but fine, and Spike tiene pulgas! DennisOl: (¡Y tú!) DennisOl: Pulgas! Oy! DennisOl: Fleas! VanceS: oy VanceS: itchy JoaoA: lol VanceS: similar word in portuguese? JoaoA: Dennis, are you polyglot? LeanneMM: yes, it's been an experience, the fleas JoaoA: pulgas VanceS: dennis is a multiglot DennisOl: No, João. I'm a dilettante! JoaoA: exactly the same DennisOl: I love languages and try to learn as much as I can in many languages. JoaoA: Very good... so ho many languages do you understand and speak? LeanneMM: Today is Day of the Kings, but also the 70th birthday of our Mexican Dad, Don Alfonso... DennisOl: Puedo manejar español bastante bien, y estoy empezando a comprender portugués mas y mas. JoaoA: muito bem DennisOl: Day of the Kings? I thought that was tomorrow—the 6th. JoaoA: se quiser aprender alguma coisa comigo, estou ao seu dispor. LeanneMM: So last night, at midnight, the family got up and gathered outside his door to sing "Las Mananitas"... VanceS: it is tomorrow already JoaoA: today is the 6th JoaoA: day of the Kings RickRo joined the room. DennisOl: Bem, João! Let's learn together! RickRo: Hey everyone! LeanneMM: Hey Rick! DennisOl: Where have my days gone?! VanceS: hey rick VanceS: http://www.technorati.com/search/writingmatrix?authority=n&language=en JoaoA: Yes, Dennis, always JoaoA: Hi Rick RickRo: Tudo bem , joao? DennisOl: Hey, Rick. Tudo bem? LeanneMM: except Calvin, who is just learning Spanish, couldn't hope to master the words, at least learned the tune in an hour and a half, and he accompanied us on the comb RickRo: E joia! DennisOl: I was convinced that today was the 5th. Oy! JoaoA smiles RickRo: It was only yesterday {:-{} LeanneMM: it was fun/funny "rehearsing" in the bus, and funny when he performed DennisOl: Today is also Christmas for Armenians (except in Jerusalem) and Christmas Eve for Christians following the ld (Julian) calendar-- LeanneMM: That's OK Dennis, I lost a day last week too - couldn't believe it was Friday already DennisOl: for example, Russians. RickRo: I'm always loosing Sundays now that I have a different weekend.... LeanneMM: how's that, Rick? DennisOl: Before this session started, as a matter of fact, I was working on a "Russian Christmas" greeting that I have on the Web. RickRo: Im in Jordan and we have Friday Saturday weekends.... DennisOl: I have a version online now, but I'm adding some explanatory notes. DennisOl: There are probably Orthodox in Jordan who will celebrate Christmas tomorrow, Rick. LeanneMM: I know what the problem is, Dennis, you have *no* schedule now that you're retired, so everyday is like a Saturday RickRo: True, Dennis. Not many but definitely some... DennisOl: You're right, Leanne--but did you know that I'm technically not retired? RickRo: get back to the grind, Dennis! JoaoA: Yes, that's right. They are celebrating Christmas tomorrow VanceS: when I'm traveling I always forget it 's sunday VanceS: http://lianadevine.wordpress.com/2007/12/28/christmas-comes-to-mexico/ DennisOl: I've got plenty of grind right here at home! LeanneMM: yes, I guess...but essentially the same RickRo: smiles LeanneMM: How did you enjoy that, Vance? DennisOl: Right, Leanne. The only difference for me is that I'm on medical leave and collecting benefits--while continuing to accrue years and points toward actual retirement. VanceS: I enjoy your blog, nice you have a record DennisOl: I loved that post, Leanne. DennisOl: And all the others, of course. LeanneMM: woo hoo Dennis, good on ya! DennisOl: Yes, it's a great arrangement, Leanne. LeanneMM: Unfortunately, I've not written anymore over the holidays... VanceS: watching the video DennisOl: I love the photos you've included in your continuing account of "The Great Trek of 2007-2008." DennisOl: And I haven't commented on the latest post . . . but I've read it. LeanneMM: and we have a gazzillion more that we haven't posted, but are taking up precious hard drive space DennisOl: I hear you on that, Leanne! LeanneMM: who has time to go through all that??? DennisOl: Since I now know what day it is, are you having el pan de los reyes? LeanneMM: yep DennisOl: (Actually, it isn't called that, but I don't remember the name.) DennisOl: Did you get the bean (or baby Jesus)? LeanneMM: we made one kind of tamal yesterday and are making another kind today, and expect a lot of family and friends to show up to help eat them RitaZ joined the room. DennisOl: Yum, yum! LeanneMM: Hola Rita DennisOl: Rita! RitaZ hugs everybody hi LeanneMM hugs Rita DennisOl: Abrazos! RitaZ: hola, Leanne!!! RickRo: ola! JoaoA: Ola Rita RitaZ: topic today...? DennisOl: The topics are kind of meandering, as usual. JoaoA: The day of the Kings DennisOl: Or Christmas Eve on the old (Julian) calendar! RickRo: Why don't the queens get their day? RitaZ: ah, celebrated here, still ;-) JoaoA smiles LeanneMM: Dennis, It's Rosca de los Reyes, and I expect there are several little dolls stuffed into it - it's pretty big, and bought at Sam's Club ;-) RitaZ: kids expect to get toys on their shoes today JoaoA: do they? where? DennisOl: http://www.d-oliver.net/Rozhdestvo/ JoaoA: not here in Portugal DennisOl: Ah, yes. Mil gracias, Leanne. RitaZ: Rosca de Reyes: VERY common here LeanneMM did not get any toys for any kids for today LeanneMM: oops, didn't know about that, Rita DennisOl: Do you put toys, ceramic figures of Niño Jesús, or beans inside, Rita? VanceS waves to Rita RitaZ: until some few years ago..., instead of Father Christmas, we celebrated Kings' Day DennisOl: The Greeks do something similar for January 1st. DennisOl: They make a special bread called Vasilopita. DennisOl: (St. Basil's Bread) RitaZ: some people do, Dennis, but very few LeanneMM: I see Nina Liakos has come online, so maybe she'll join us and tell us more DennisOl: It's baked with a coin inside, and whoever gets the coin is supposed to have good luck for the year. NinaTL joined the room. LeanneMM: Hi Nina! RickRo: Leanne, how did you know? LeanneMM hugs Nina JoaoA: Hi Nina DennisOl: When I was religious, my name day was on January 1st, and I often made Vasilopita. LeanneMM: hehehe Rick RitaZ hugs room mate to-be Nina :-) RickRo: Some people know everything! DennisOl: She's psychic, Rick. LeanneMM saw Nina log into Yahoo RickRo: aha! NinaTL hugs Leanne and Rita and Dennis and Joao and Vance and Rick DennisOl: And some people know everything that's worth knowing! (hee hee hee) VanceS: maybe the online tab DennisOl: Hey, Nina! Hugs! RickRo: Abracos para Nina! JoaoA: Abraços DennisOl: Sim--muitos abraços! LeanneMM doesn't know when or where Nina and Rita will be sharing a room NinaTL saw Leanne on YM and suspected she might be here NinaTL: TESOL! LeanneMM winks at Nina NinaTL: of course RickRo: and I thought it was through osmosis.... RitaZ: in Manhattan, for TESOL, Leanne, like we did! ;-) JoaoA smiles NinaTL: Happy New Year, everyone DennisOl: Will you be making another TESOL blog, Nina? LeanneMM: yes, I thought about that when I realized it was 2008 already NinaTL: Yes, I plan to! NinaTL: unless somebody else does it first DennisOl: Khroniá Pollá, Nina! JoaoA: Thanks Nina. Happy New Year to you, too DennisOl: Terrific! RitaZ: not planning to join us, Leanne? NinaTL: Efkharisto, Dennis! LeanneMM: Where is TESOL this year? NYC? LeanneMM: no Rita :-( DennisOl: I hope you do one. The one from last year was/is outstanding. NinaTL: Yes, in New York, making it virtually impossible for me not to go VanceS: My son is in Mexico at the moment DennisOl: Yes, NYC. NinaTL: It's a 4-hour drive from here RitaZ: yes, Leanne, we have a room to share if you come ;-) RickRo: See you there! LeanneMM: Where in Mexico, Vance? DennisOl: Where in Mexico, Vance? and which son? VanceS: I think he's just headed for Chiapas VanceS: Dusty, the younger one LeanneMM: hmmm Chiapas, my favourite! DennisOl: I hope he' VanceS: mine too DennisOl: he's having a great time! NinaTL: Rita and I are looking for 2 more (female) webheads (or: other) to share our room but they have to be cozy because they will have to sleep in the same bed RickRo: I am partial to Oaxaca meself NinaTL: So if you hear of anyone who is looking, tell them about it LeanneMM advises Nina not to ask Moira VanceS: I used to buy things in Oaxoca and then sell them back in the states NinaTL: Moira has already booked in the same place VanceS: to finance trips there NinaTL wonders why Leanne said that DennisOl: I've never been very far south into Mexico--which is odd because Arizona shares borders with two different Mexican states. RitaZ: Leanne and I shared our bed in Vancouver..., it was ok, wasn't it, Leanne? NinaTL: Isn't that slightly illegal, Vance? RickRo: hmmm, things you had to hide? VanceS: Leanne would have inside information LeanneMM: When Moira and Rita and I shared, Moira refused to shar a bed with either of us...maybe it was us, eh Rita? VanceS: way beyond the statute of limitations now :-)) NinaTL: Some people are restless sleepers DennisOl: My coffee cup is empty. Back in a few minutes . . . . . VanceS: no, clothes and trinkets in the market NinaTL: Last year I shared a room with 2 MEI colleagues and one of them refused to share a bed RitaZ: some poeple dont like sharing a bed..., understandable :-) VanceS: I didn't overdo it, just used the proceeds to return NinaTL: She said she doesn't even sleep with her husband because she moves around so much LeanneMM: yes, Rita, it was certainly OK, and you didn't even snore, as I recall RickRo: vance, that's what they all say.... NinaTL: Even if you snore, Rita, I will probably sleep through it RitaZ :-)) VanceS: who's to say what's excessive Rick? NinaTL is really excited about seeing Rita (and Moira and Paula and Bee...) again NinaTL: Vance, do you think you might make it this year? RickRo: You've got a point.... {:-{} One man's contraband is another's daily bread... RitaZ: anybody else here joining the gang in Manhattan? RickRo: I am; where's the WH party? RitaZ: we are 10 so far VanceS: You know Nina, I don't know NinaTL: I didn't get a single response to my post about accommodations on evonline2002 RitaZ: still planning, Rick NinaTL: Great, Rick! I will be happy to meet you f2f VanceS: I am supposed to give a talk at an academic session but they've agreed to take it online RitaZ: so we are 11, great , Rick! LeanneMM: pity TESOL doesn't support their speakers financially NinaTL: We're three months out, but maybe it's not too early to create a blog RitaZ: true, Leanne VanceS: they don't even support them with Internet LeanneMM harrumphs at that VanceS: unless they happen to be in a TESOL sponsored event NinaTL: My husband was saying yesterday, doesn't TESOL udnerstand that teachers can't afford the rates at the hotels + transportation + convention fees + restaurants.... NinaTL: It's very expensive to go. VanceS: one year I discovered I hadn't booked a projector, which I would have had to pay for RitaZ: well...., here no Congresses support their speakers, unles invited... VanceS: I actually tried to get one at the last minute VanceS: fortunately Phil Hubbard in the audience had one in his day pack RickRo: NYC is really expensive for sure--it'll be good to cross paths, Nina.... VanceS: to avoid paying for his own NinaTL: It's really amazing that 5,000 people manage to come up with several thousand $$ each year and go LeanneMM: well yes, invited speakers should be supported...but isn't this where TESOL gets its speakers? RitaZ: yes, Nina, and the effort for some of us is HUGE! VanceS: and that speakers will ante up for equipment and etc VanceS: and it all goes to hotels and unions RickRo: nods VanceS: doesn't go back into the organization NinaTL: I am already resigned to staying home after this. DennisOl: Yes, sad, huh? NinaTL: The conventions are likely to be far away and I don't think I will be able to swing it. RickRo: I wish TESOL would go world wide again.... VanceS: I'm pretty fed up with it, esp with so many other excellent venues on offer RickRo: South America, maybe.... DennisOl: One year, I was in a colloquium presenting things on Web-based ESOL. VanceS: how about South Africa, better LeanneMM has wondered in past where everyone's TESOL dues and convention fees go RickRo: We can do the world cup.... DennisOl: Even with five (or was it six?) of us, the live Net connection fee was too steep. VanceS listens to Dennis NinaTL: Then I would be absolutely certain not to be able to go! NinaTL: Do speakers pay even now for these things? RitaZ: did you know that here we can pay with credit cards in monthly instalements? when you buy a ticket (or whatever!!) you choose nº of months you want to extend your pay...(up to 12!) DennisOl: And it was also too expensive for us to have both Mac and PC systems. DennisOl: So we took things on CD and Zip disks. NinaTL: at WATESOL, all the AV and internet connections are now free for presenters DennisOl: A very nice gesture! LeanneMM: but Rita, what are the interest rates like? VanceS: I don't see how you can hold a conference on education these days without internet VanceS: except the way Dennis did it DennisOl: Me, either. NinaTL: I haven't registered for the Convention yet. I should do that before things get hairy at work. DennisOl: Definitely, Vance! NinaTL: And I haven't registered for anything at EVOnline yet DennisOl: Yes, it's better to register early. RitaZ: no interest rates, Nina! :-) NinaTL: I've decided I will lurk in BaW08 LeanneMM: ooohhh Nina, isn't that starting pretty soon? VanceS: Bee is really cranking up SMiELT DennisOl: Me, either, Nina, but I'll be part of BaW08 and also one of the blogging seminars. DennisOl: SMiELT? VanceS: and the blogging4educators promises to be an excellent show NinaTL: I couldn't do BaW07 and B4B last year VanceS: Social Media in ELT DennisOl: Yes, definitely. NinaTL: One of them was always being dropped DennisOl: I did, Nina, but I don DennisOl: don't know how! VanceS: I'm mentoring Music and they have an interesting concept, Lee Baber and Elderbob NinaTL: I'd like to try something new but what with the self-study I think I should content myself to a third round in BaW DennisOl: There's already a lot of activity on BaW08. LeanneMM listens to Vance DennisOl: Probably around 80 people registered so far. NinaTL: Really? You mean on the list? NinaTL: That's actually the problem with BaW I think DennisOl: Yep. VanceS: Does BaW have an RSS feed? NinaTL: too many people posting on the YG LeanneMM nods DennisOl: I'm sure it does, but I don't remember for sure. VanceS: any YGroup has one if the message traffic is made PUBLIC NinaTL: so it takes half a day to slog through all the messages, most of which are social trivia JoaoA: I registered for SMiLT and Teaching with Powerpoint MoiraH joined the room. DennisOl: What is SMiLT? VanceS: the ppt session was slow starting but looks good now NinaTL: What is SMiLT? LeanneMM: Hi Moira DennisOl: Bonjour, Moira! Hugs! VanceS: Social Media in ELT LeanneMM hugs Moira NinaTL thinks great minds think alike and hugs Dennis DennisOl: Ah, I see. A great topic for Bee! VanceS: Bonjour M JoaoA: Social Media in Language Teaching MoiraH: Hi Leanne!!! Happy New year to you wherever you are :-)) NinaTL: Moira ma cherie, welcome! NinaTL hugs Moira JoaoA: Hi Moira NinaTL: Ooh, that sounds interesting DennisOl hugs Moira, too. RitaZ hugs dear Moi MoiraH: Hi Nina and hugs back Rick and Rita, Vance and Joao and Dennis :-))) DennisOl: Well, I may try to do three sessions this year, then. LeanneMM: still in Mexico, Moira, south of Cancun NinaTL wonders if Moira knows that her name is pronounced [mira] in Greek and means destiny DennisOl: Oy! LeanneMM: interesting, Nina DennisOl: Yes, very. MoiraH: Yes I do Nina - the three goddesses of destiny NinaTL: 3 sessions will definitely have to wait until I retire NinaTL: three? DennisOl: And in Russian, the root "mir" means 'peace.' MoiraH: and in the time of Shakespear, it was a noun ' the moira of someone' NinaTL: I am pretty sure it's a different root tho DennisOl: Meaning? LeanneMM wonders if Vance finished telling about Lee and Elderbob's Music program NinaTL: interesting! MoiraH: and then became a name for girls DennisOl: Yes, I'm sure you're right, Nina. The name Nina is common in the Slavic languages but it isn't related to the idea of peace. MoiraH: in Ireland and Scotland and then of course, they emaigrated to the States and that's why there's a Moira in Peter Pan ;-)) NinaTL: Mira, you mean? NinaTL: You have researched this pretty thoroughly Moira--I might have suspected VanceS: Sorry Leanne, not much more to say 'cept could get the URL VanceS: which would make my point NinaTL: So did everyone have a nice New Year's? DennisOl: re Nina, see this link: DennisOl: http://www.andythenamebender.com/name-meanings/Nina.htm MoiraH: Well, I've lived withit many years ;-) and everybody asks me :-) JoaoA: Yes, thank you Nina. RitaZ: Moi, we are 11 so far for the Manhattan party ;-), Rick is joining us... VanceS: did you see the unusual photoshop tutorial on YouTube? NinaTL: Thank you Dennis, very interesting! LeanneMM: we built an "ano viejo" and set him ablaze at midnight, which ignited the fireworks hidden insidew MoiraH: Yeehaa!!!! NinaTL: That must have been fun! MoiraH: sounds fun Leanne - tell us more NinaTL: My husband and I went to a Greek dance as usual VanceS: did you get a video? LeanneMM: eventually it'll get to the blog, but... NinaTL: no (photoshop tutorial) LeanneMM: no video, Vance, just photos NinaTL: How's your internet access so far, Leanne? VanceS: it's funny and vaguely informative: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_X5uR7VC4M LeanneMM: we sacrificed old clothes, sewed the pants to the shirt and stuffed it all with wood shavings NinaTL: "watches the video MoiraH: It sounds a bit like what we do in England for Guy Fawkes, right Leanne? LeanneMM: had a hollow gourd for a head, but painted a face, with wool hair and a hat LeanneMM: yes, I think so, Moira MoiraH: now, that we don't do ;-) MoiraH: just a cloth haed with straw VanceS: photos at Flickr? LeanneMM: internet is not bad a the moment, Nina, much better in the AM when not so many people online (they're at work and school) LeanneMM: not yet, Vance...behind in my posting LeanneMM blushes VanceS: Alan Levine just left a nice post about activating slideflickr NinaTL: This video is amazing! NinaTL: I am so clueless about working with photos DennisOl: Alan Levine: an amazing man. VanceS: that tutorial is hilarious, and like so many things on You Tube, done very well RitaZ: Flicker is very good, Nina, and userfriendly :-) DennisOl: He was once head of Technology for the community college district where I used to work. NinaTL: I use Picasa and have recently been uploading all my photos to their webalbums, hoping not to run out of space VanceS: http://cogdogblog.com/2008/01/05/366photos/ LeanneMM: I've enjoyed working with Photostory, but find iTunes to be a bother for trying to export the music to PS3 DennisOl: Ah, yes--Alan Levine's blog. VanceS: There's his post, found it in twitter NinaTL: I've never figured out how to add music to a slideshow DennisOl: He's an amazingly prolific blogposter. VanceS: his 50 ways to tell a digital story is classic MoiraH: love cogdogblog NinaTL: Yes, I've seen that LeanneMM: I think the problem with iTUnes is that they convert your files to a type only they recognize and so PS3 won't take them NinaTL: I mean the 50 Ways VanceS: that's why I stopped using iTunes DennisOl: Vance, when he was in Phoenix, he first posted about RSS maybe three or four years ago. VanceS: couldn't use the file formats DennisOl: I think iTunes is a bother! Useful sometimes, but on the whole a bother! DennisOl: (and this from a Mac user) LeanneMM: Unfortunately, Vance, that's where we decided to store all our music while travelling - burned it all to iTunes VanceS: I first heard about RSS from a talk Will Richardson gave on a bloglines that Bee hosted at Elluminate RickRo: With iTunes you can set it to MP3, but it isn't the default MoiraH: I don't like iTunes or my pc doesn't - I haven't figured out which ;-) LeanneMM: me too Vance, RSS VanceS is a default kind of guy RitaZ -)) LeanneMM ponders that VanceS: ha ha LeanneMM disagress with VAnce DennisOl: However, I do have problems with Windows Media. VanceS: in the case of iTunes RickRo: I am a fan of iTunes, to be the dissenting voice DennisOl: It doesn't work with Macs (though there's a workaround). VanceS: I was not able to find the non-default MP3 setting VanceS: in the short time DennisOl: And it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE to get rid of WM once it's been installed. VanceS: that my iPod Shuffle worked LeanneMM thinks "default" implies "reactive" and considers Vance to be "proactive" RickRo: deviant? VanceS: so when my Shuffle packed in I switched to iRiver and MP3 VanceS: binned both the shuffle and iTunes DennisOl: Invents-his-own-logic? RickRo: I use iTunes for a number of different players, on both Mac and PC.... VanceS: I'm proactive by default DennisOl: hee hee hee LeanneMM: hehehe VanceS: actually I didn't bin iTunes NinaTL: I have been told that realPlayer takes over a computer once it's installed VanceS: no reason to VanceS: nor to bin WMP, why would you want to do that DennisOl: Rick: I guess the reason I think iTunes is a bother is because I'm reactive: there's one default feature that I've never remembered to change: the shuffle. LeanneMM: well, I'm going to make a coffee and start the day. I see Dona Mari si up, so the tamale making will surely start soon VanceS: btw, Real Player has a great interface for setting the default media settings VanceS: it tells you what will play what media VanceS: and you can change it right there LeanneMM: also, I'm noticing my internet connection is slowing down VanceS: or could, haven't seen it lately DennisOl: Ojalá que tú pases muy bien el día, Leanne! Abrazos para Calvin! Saludos para El Supergato! LeanneMM waves good bye before her screen freezes entirely RitaZ: , bye, Leanne, enjoy the day!! :-) VanceS: is the fridge on the internet? DennisOl: hee hee hee LeanneMM: see you all when I can! Take care! DennisOl: You, too, Leanne! JoaoA: By Leanne NinaTL: Have a good day/week etc Leanne! LeanneMM winks at Vance VanceS . o O ( only explanation for why Internet would slow down when DM starts making tamales ) DennisOl: ROTFL! LeanneMM now slaps her forehead DennisOl laughs even harder LeanneMM left the room (signed off). RickRo: Tchau! DennisOl: I am so glad I was able to meet Leanne f2f. DennisOl: And Calvin, of course. RitaZ: when was that, Dennis? DennisOl: It was a month or two ago. VanceS: me too, in Seattle DennisOl: They were in the Phoenix area. VanceS: that was a gas VanceS: she and Rita and Moira DennisOl: Oh, yeah, it must've been. DennisOl: Leanne and Rita and Moira--Oh, my! NinaTL: Vance, don't forget me VanceS: at the hostel right outside the market in Seattle VanceS: and NINA, yes DennisOl: And Nina--Oh, my! Oh, my! VanceS: I'm thinking of walking down the street with those three arm in arm NinaTL: Does anyone know if tere and/or Daf will be at TESOL this year? VanceS: from the hostel RitaZ: yeah... the Green Tortoise is unforgettable :-) DennisOl: Do you have three arms? MoiraH: The photo of us all is great, I must admit, with the 'Father' holding on to us under some walkway as we searched for a pub, remember? NinaTL: Did you post that one on the blog? DennisOl: I don't remember seeing it. RitaZ: its somehwre, yes RitaZ: in my photostory NinaTL: There are so many slideshows embedded in that blog DennisOl: Ah. Well, I'll have to revisit the blog, then! EBobB joined the room. DennisOl: Oh, yeah. NinaTL: Good morning, EBob! DennisOl: Hey, EB. Boy hoddy! EBobB: Good mornng al. EBobB: all RitaZ: Hi, Bob! VanceS: eBob MoiraH: Hey, I posted nothing after Seattle - on the day I came back, my best friend died and then the next week, I smashed my face in a fall - I zqs out of qction for so;e ti;e/ NinaTL: Dennis, was that a type or a salutation? JoaoA: Hi eBob DennisOl: Yew awl raht? NinaTL: typo DennisOl: Yep. Suthrun. DennisOl: Not a typo. NinaTL: =? NinaTL: howdy? EBobB: Awl raht. EBobB: Howdy. DennisOl: Southern. MoiraH: to read ' I was out of action for some time' - my keyboard will slip from French to English and vv DennisOl: That matty guuuuuhd, EB. EBobB: Getting ready for EVO 08 MoiraH: Hi Bob EBobB: Hi Moira RitaZ: I remember that, Moi, :-( NinaTL: Is it a dual keyboard, Moira? How does that work? VanceS: I think in Texsus it's purty good DennisOl: Texican and Suthrun are mutually intelligible, for the most part. MoiraH: No, I can switch but sometimes 'it' switches for me DennisOl: It's purdy guhd in AZ, too. NinaTL: Dennis, I will add suthrun to your long list of linguistic accomplishments EBobB: Twas a balmy 79F here yesterday, and plans to be same today. EBobB: Hard to stay inside and work. BeyzaY joined the room. DennisOl: Suthrun was (is?) my first dialect! NinaTL: Damn! Here it's maybe 35 or 40 DennisOl: Beyza! Merhaba! EBobB: May work from laptop out on the deck. BeyzaY: Hi everyone RitaZ hugs Beyza hi! BeyzaY: merhaba MoiraH: Hi Beyza NinaTL: Hi Beyza! Sorry I missed you yesterday when I was afk JoaoA: Hi Beyza BeyzaY: np Nina VanceS: Hi Beyza EBobB: Nina, it was that here, two days ago. BeyzaY: I hope u re all doing fine ClaireB joined the room. RitaZ: hi, Clari! JoaoA: Hi Claire NinaTL hugs Claire and Beyza too EBobB: The weather can change really quick here. ClaireB: hi guys BeyzaY: Hi claire MoiraH: Hi Claire DennisOl: Claire! Hugs! ClaireB hugs those who would like a hug VanceS: hi claire BeyzaY: so what are we chatting about today? VanceS . o O ( looks like the day shift is showing up ) MoiraH: lol NinaTL: anything and everything, per usual DennisOl: Beyza: Iyiyem BeyzaY: fine for me DennisOl: Teşekkür ederim! BeyzaY: iyi olduguna sevindim ben de iyiyim Dennis BeyzaY: rica ederim MoiraH: Are you still going to Australia Vance for the event which Bee is in for the second time round? DennisOl: I'll have to spend some time translating iyi olduguna . . . . , Beyza. EBobB: I just read Gavin Dudenay's post on how long a computer lasts these days. VanceS: I'm going to Bangkok for the Future of Learning in a Networked World aspect MoiraH: yeah, one year :-( and a laptop VanceS: I can't wait to get my first $200 laptop RitaZ: not mine, folks ...;-9 VanceS: it won't have windows EBobB: Yeah, and I thought it was a good post. EBobB: And yesterday, I read an article on the lowered costs of laptops. RitaZ: 200$, vance?? RickRo: The Economist just ran an article on Negroponte's 200 laptop--and trashed it EBobB: A new wave of machines in the 200-400USD amount. RitaZ: a real bargain! VanceS: it's called the $100 laptop RickRo: The way it ran that is.... DennisOl: What's the name of Bee's event? When is the Bangkok event? VanceS: and it probably won't run SL RitaZ: ah EBobB: Vance is that the Negroponte machine? VanceS: that's one of them VanceS: his is the OLPC, right? MoiraH: Can't remember Dennis - TALCO and F something (help me Vance) AnnEP joined the room. EBobB: right. VanceS: Target also has one NinaTL is still in shock over Bee's sabbatical and travels RickRo: Hey Ann VanceS: and Intel has produced one JoaoA: Hi Ann EBobB: Its not really his, but built to his specifications. EBobB: or suggestions. MoiraH: There's also a small one by Asus I think now ClaireB: nina, webheads flit around the world all the time EBobB: an amazing machine. VanceS: some run Linux EBobB: Asus is the eee something. DennisOl: Hi, Ann. Welcome! VanceS: one has an os called sugar MoiraH: the Asus runs Linux I believe VanceS: the concept is that your computer is in the center VanceS: and the connections are arrayed around the edge MoiraH: Can't remember Bob EBobB: I notice that Intel has dropped out of the race for the low cost school oriented machine. VanceS: that's the desktop MoiraH: Hi Ann EBobB: Had to to with using proprietary programs (Windows_) VanceS: they dropped out of OLPC, did they abandon their own cheap laptop? RickRo: I think they are looking at XT again as an OS EBobB: Not sure Vance. It will be interesting to see if they compete at all. VanceS: here's the FLNW url http://flnw.wikispaces.com/flnw2_tcc EBobB: I suspect there will be two markets....one low cost and educational for developing parts of the world and another for the more wealthy, advanced, high speed part of the world. VanceS: Michael Coghlan will be there VanceS: and also people who just want a cheap data device to haul around airports with them DennisOl: Thanks for the URL, Vance. VanceS: these things are tough, btw AnnEP left the room (signed off). RickRo: http://www.economist.com/daily/columns/techview/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10472304 MoiraH: Asus Eee PC 701 - thanks Bob MoiraH: weighing 920 gr EBobB: But isnt there also a laptop? EBobB: or is that it. EBobB: The PC in the title would lead one to beleive it is a PC? ClaireB left the room (signed off). ClaireB joined the room. VanceS: that means per child VanceS: One Laptop Per Child BeyzaY: cool EBobB: I wonder what the Eee means. MoiraH: http://www.bestofmicro.com/actualite/23545-asus-mini-pc.html sorry in French VanceS: the original concept is buy one yourself, pay double, and donate the other RickRo: Check out the Economist article--they list some of the other computers too. RickRo: They have one from India for 80 bucks listed DennisOl: I'll definitely check out the _Economist_ article. I've read a little about this project, but want to know more. EBobB: Dennis, I think it was you looking for a new PC? MoiraH: Although the Asus Ee has pc in its title (in French here) it is a laptop DennisOl: Yes, EB. I'm going to get an Intel Mac. EBobB: Thanks Moira, thats what I thought. DennisOl: I thought I would have one by now, but it hasn't happened yet. MoiraH: the price on this site is $350 ThomasLev joined the room. EBobB: We will all be interested in seeing how you fare with that, Dennis. DennisOl: Tom! NinaTL: Good morning, Tom! MoiraH: Hello Tom RitaZ: hi, Tom! DennisOl: Hoddy! How's thangs? ThomasLev: hello! BeyzaY: Hi tom VanceS: Even reading the Economist VanceS: the first OLPC VanceS: can't be worse than the first Vista JoaoA: Hi Thomas EBobB: I have a HP media for size and speed, and an old cobbled machine for w ork. ClaireB: hi tom! EBobB: and an even older laptop. RickRo: Nothing worse that vista... DennisOl: Thanks, EB. My PC running XP is fine for now, but will need to be updated pretty soon, too. EBobB: The laptop has the nickname of "turtle" VanceS greets Tom DennisOl: (updated = replaced) NinaTL: like a Maryland Terrapin maybe EBobB: I just had to replace the hard driive on my middle machine, and in the process went ahead and installed a dual boot Ubuntu. ClaireB: is there anything good about vista at all? VanceS: too bad you can't reinstall hardware around your existing OS DennisOl: Yes, definitely, Vance. NinaTL: I have vista on this PC and it hasn't done anything bad EBobB: Thats why I keep that middle machine Vance. VanceS to claire "It's pushing a lot of people to macs and linux" NinaTL: I like it sp far EBobB: I can experiment on it with worrying that I am going to completely loose my ability to work. VanceS: Bobbi likes hers ok now that she is used to it DennisOl: A recent Mac OS update has changed one of my default settings and restoring it to what it was before would be SUCH a pain in the dupa. VanceS: but it's like Office 2007 VanceS: you have to re-learn it VanceS: plus it spies on you EBobB: I havent tried Vista yet, and haven''t seen enough positive about it to go put it in. NinaTL: Why don't you like vista, Rick? DennisOl: That's one of the things that I don't like, Vance: the spying. VanceS: the original was built to fail if you didn't register it DennisOl: And I DESPISE IT when Microsoft thinks it knows what I want to do better than I know what I want to do. VanceS: d-e-s-i-g-n-e-d to FAIL DennisOl: (I'm thinking default settings in Word, for example.) NinaTL: I agree about that, dennis, like when (c) turns into copyright when you are making up a multiple choice quiz! VanceS: try registering your software when your os no longer works EBobB: Dennis, do you think that the open source products do a better job of allowing your preferences. ClaireB: it is all getting just too complicated NinaTL: Word allows preferences; you just have to know how to get in there and undo the defaults DennisOl: Definitely, Nina. Of course, those default settings can be turned off or changed, but what I don't like is that they're even there in the first place! DennisOl: Yes--like in the Tools menu. NinaTL: I guess I appreciate some of them NinaTL: most of the time ClaireB: at my univ, the version of office available in the public computer labs isn't compatible with blackboard, har hard DennisOl: Well, yes, so do I, but I like to be able to turn them on or off according to what I'm doing. EBobB: As long as I can change the defaults, I am alright. NinaTL: but sometimes in ESL we want to type errors and Word insists on corrrecting them! RickRo: Nina I am a Mac person, so it all looks like imitation mac to me.... To be fair, though, my wife has a computer with Vista that hasn't crashed all that often--yet. NinaTL: Knock on wood, mine has never crashed since I bought it in July NinaTL: But it came with Vista installed VanceS: the funny thing about our vista laptop VanceS: it won't run IE VanceS: ha ha DennisOl: Claire: Big problems with Blackboard during the past six months or so in the Maricopa Community Colleges--and they use an enterprise version. NinaTL: I see no reason to install it when one already has XP DennisOl: Amazing, Vance! VanceS: it is NinaTL: my other computer is still running fine on XP RickRo: Oh yeah, the IE always crashes on her computer! EBobB: Thats my preference Nina ThomasLev: now that macs are like vista they crash too VanceS: and when you try to shut it down ((IE) it tries to relaunch RickRo: nods DennisOl: Definitely. VanceS: it's pathetic BeyzaY left the room (signed off). RitaZ: well, I like Flock very much MoiraH: I was reading recently like people like Dell are no longer providing the drivers for XP on machines so you're obliged to use the Vista - yuck NinaTL wonders why some things always open in IE when Firefox is her default browser EBobB: I never found flock as appealing. VanceS: the only thing I don't like about flock is there is or was no Del.Icio.us button for it RickRo: Flock is another browser? DennisOl: Moira: Oy! DennisOl: Rick: yes. RitaZ: yep VanceS: yeah, also open source VanceS: mozilla based I think RitaZ: yes, V DennisOl: http://www.flock.com/ RickRo: mozilla sounds so ancient.... NinaTL: It sounds like a swearword VanceS: can anyone install a delicious tag button in flock? NinaTL: Delicious is something I haven't figure out in Vista yet NinaTL: I am sure there is a way but I am slow... VanceS: you can go to your acct and log on and tag sites that way DennisOl: I just downloaded Flock . . . to add to my collection of browsers (Safari, Camino, OmniWeb, Netscape, Firefox . . . .) VanceS: but I like to just hit the tag button NinaTL: That is so inconvenient tho Vance EBobB: Opera, Dennis? VanceS: so if I'm in flock I copy the url into Firefox and tag it there NinaTL: Yes, I want one of those! NinaTL: I installed one on the other PC DennisOl: Yes, I have Opera, too, EB. EBobB: I use opera on my cell. VanceS: I used to use Opera, the first tabbed browser? NinaTL: I also had a problem with bloglines but finally figured out that there is a little B at the bottom right of my screen NinaTL: that replaces the tag I had at the top in XP RitaZ: Flock restores all your urls you've been browsing if your pc crashes..., good thing VanceS: so does Firefox DennisOl: I like Opera pretty well, but I've learned that each browser is better in some things than other browsers. MoiraH: yep DennisOl: PageFlakes, for example, won't work (on a Mac) in many browsers. VanceS: you would learn that with your collection Dennis NinaTL: you can't please all of the people all of the time RitaZ: true, Nina..., it takes all sorts....;-)) DennisOl: Or even most of the people most of the time! EBobB: I agree, Dennis and Moira, but I tend to use Firefox, since I can log into my Firefox from juust about anywhere. JoaoA: I am pretty happy with Firefox DennisOl: I used to use it as my main browser, EB and João. Can't remember why I switched to Camino as my browser of choice. MoiraH: Firefox was giving me aches and pains recently during lots of updates but is now working fine again VanceS: FF is my fave, esp because if it does crash, and they all do, it just restores MoiraH: yes, that is nifty ThomasLev: FF on macs was having trouble with Blogger EBobB: Moira, Firefox went through a period of glitches but I think most have been resolved. DennisOl: Camino will do that, too, but it's not automatic--and I like that. Sometimes I don't WANT to restore my previous session. MoiraH: right Bob JoaoA: Yes, and the many fantastic add ons it has... just amazing VanceS: now when I turn it off I hit the red x and close all tab and sometimes when I relaunch it offers to restore everything ThomasLev: but the students were all on FF because Safari can no longer get Yahoo e-mail RitaZ: Dennis, but Flock asks you... DennisOl: I didn't know that, Tom. VanceS: FF is not automatic, it asks first DennisOl: Yes, but I haven't used Flock yet, Rita. DennisOl: (I just downloaded it a few minutes ago.) RitaZ: worth trying, Dennis ClaireB left the room (signed off). VanceS: FLock is pretty much like FF except for that delicious tag icon issue EBobB: In fact, FF gives you a choice of which of several closed sessions to go back to. RitaZ: I'll see to that, V DennisOl: Yes, I look forward to trying it out, Rita. EBobB: However, I am thinking that may partly be an extension I installed. JoaoA: But the delicious tag is very useful VanceS: I am revisiting it now MoiraH: I don't have the choice to go back to several closed session, Bob, just the last one VanceS: maybe they've fixed it ClaireB joined the room. MoiraH: if it closed for some unknown reason VanceS: wb claire EBobB: Moira, as I said, that may be due to an extension that allows that. JoaoA: I have to go and have lunch right now. Wish you all a good day. Thanks to everyone. RitaZ: do let me know if you manage with the Delicious tag, V MoiraH: yes, I think so - do you know which one? Sounds intereesting VanceS: nice seeing you Joao EBobB: Bye, Joao. RitaZ: bye, Joao, have a nice week ClaireB: bye joao JoaoA left the room (signed off). EBobB: Did Joao take everyone with him? DennisOl: I'm still here, but I'm multitasking. VanceS: I've been trying to break into my delicious acct on flock VanceS: finally got it MoiraH: and I was running to get more paper for my printer RitaZ: bravo, Vance, how? ClaireB: i know that we aren't suposed to discuss politics, but are you guys following the us primaries?? EBobB: And I am about to go fix breakfast for my family....we are celebrating one of my daughters birthday today. VanceS: flock has fixed the problem RitaZ: ah, great NinaTL: I am creating the wia-in-nyc blog EBobB: Claire, I have my screens split right now, with Tapped in on one side, and the national news on the other. DennisOl: Happy birthday to your daughter, EB! EBobB: Thanks Dennis. MoiraH: no, sorry, I'm following Sarko's shoot in popularity and now the announcement of a possible wedding to Carla Bruni in February - that's a pretty political choice ,-) ClaireB: my money is on barack DennisOl: Terrific, Nina! Your timing is perfect! DennisOl: My pleasure, EB. MoiraH: Great Nina!!!!!!!!! RitaZ: GREAT, Nina!!! EBobB: We dont hear much about Sarko here. ClaireB: and i find it amazing that romney outspent romney by 15:1 and still beat him VanceS: do you guys follow the TALO list? NinaTL: I haven't found a template I like yet so I've just left it at minima ClaireB: i meant romney outspent huckabee MoiraH: You're lucky, Bob ;-) ClaireB: no, tell us about talo RitaZ: we wonder how much people like Sarko, Moi... NinaTL: http://wia-in-nyc.blogspot.com/ VanceS: Romney if you want 4 more years EBobB: I wish I didnt hear much about Bush either. RitaZ: lol, Bob ClaireB: no, i do NOT want 4 more years DennisOl: I'll be sure to visit it later today, Nina. VanceS: snap EBobB: Yes, Vance, I am an avid TALO reader. ClaireB: well, they all know that bush isn't popular EBobB: Its a great list. MoiraH: idem Bob NinaTL: I will add Moira and Rita ClaireB: moira, isn't sarko a bush supporter? VanceS: did you see the article on subtle games? NinaTL: Rick and Tom I think I will need your email addresses NinaTL: and Claire MoiraH: I think he supports anything that glitters ;-) NinaTL: not sure if I have those EBobB: I dont recall that article, Vance. MoiraH: Thanks Nina ClaireB: oh, you mean a true politician NinaTL: Dennis I think I will add you too as a distant participant MoiraH: lol EBobB: But I just glanced at my email this morning....hhavent really read it through yet. ClaireB: vance, tell us about talo DennisOl: Efkharistóu, Nina! NinaTL: EBob will you be going to NY? VanceS: http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/magazine/16-01/ff_args RitaZ: Nina, we can start a wiki as well, to share it with all Webheads joining us, where we can start pooling ideas... VanceS: it was here in my delicious, that's what made me recall it DennisOl: Great idea, Rita! EBobB: No, I am not a TESOL member. but I am hosting a presentation/workshop in EVO 08 EBobB: I really had not planned to, but I got rooked into it. VanceS: alright class, who can be the first to tell me what ARG stands for? ClaireB: all right government?? EBobB: Thats what Homer Simpson says when he is trying to open a beer. MoiraH: At the same time, there is Virtual Worls going on in NY but oh, the entrance is some $500 VanceS: Claire did not read the article VanceS: NEXT RitaZ: well, it might stand for Argentina this end...;-) EBobB: Something "Reality Game"? VanceS: Ding minus points for Rita and ebob MoiraH: argghhh, still thinking VanceS: ebob gets half a point back and is getting warm VanceS: Ding, minus TWO for Moira MoiraH: Avatar Reality Generation VanceS has to look it up to see if she got it EBobB: Alternate Reality Game. VanceS: BINGO to eBoB VanceS: yaaaaay NinaTL: Got your email Tom MoiraH: CONGRATS Bob DennisOl: clap clap clap clap clap EBobB: I want to thank my mother, my family, my crew, God and especially Wikipedia.... VanceS: eBob found the CLUES in the article ClaireB: hooray for bob VanceS: it's wild MoiraH: so, what is it, duh??? VanceS: someone asked if the concept could be used for language learning ClaireB: what article? i'm missing something VanceS: think about it VanceS: http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/magazine/16-01/ff_args MoiraH: yes, I need to read it too now ;-) VanceS: you don't teach directly ThomasLev: ?? VanceS: your content is all buried in clues that your students need to pick up on VanceS: but what makes it a game is that you engineer it EBobB: You know I marked that to read later, and havent gotten round to it yet. EBobB: Ill have to read it now. DennisOl: I was about to guess "Armenian Ritual Gesture." ;-) VanceS: we're a family group here Dennis ClaireB: lol dennis NinaTL: I have added Moira, Rita, Bee, Claire, Vance, Dennis and Tom as authors DennisOl: Or maybe "Aromanian Rutabaga Goulash." NinaTL: Some of those are wishful thinking DennisOl: Wonderful, Nina! ClaireB: authors of what?? NinaTL: of my tesol blog VanceS: of the TESOL Blog ClaireB: ah DennisOl: Nina's TESOL in NYC blog ClaireB: good deal NinaTL: I never added you to the last one (http://wia-in-seattle.blogspot.com) because I met you too late RitaZ: thank you, Nina, very generous of you :-) DennisOl: Did you see the one for TESOL Seattle, Claire? It's outstanding! NinaTL: Is there anyone else I should add right now? NinaTL: Paula, I guess DennisOl: Don't add Bubba Bush. RitaZ: Rick is joining us NinaTL: Don't worry Dennis DennisOl: hee hee hee NinaTL: I don't know Rick's email RickRo: I'll be there! rpr38@yahoo.com ClaireB: dennis, yes, i did VanceS: Bush would have to use The Google to find The Blog and that's not likely NinaTL: done! RickRo: shukran! DennisOl: Did what, Claire? See the blog? Or add Bubba Bush? <<hee hee hee ThomasLev: I'll be in NYC leverett@siu.eeu EBobB: Bush still thinks a "Google" is how one laughs at a minor joke. NinaTL: I already have you Tom DennisOl: Not likely at all, Vance! ClaireB: saw the blog. (Nina, yes, I think you and i met on the last day in seattle) RitaZ: ah, Michael Coghlan and Jonathan Finkelstein will also be there! NinaTL: but Blogger is not cooperating. It's telling me I have more than one @ in one of the addresses but I don't ThomasLev: Happy New Year btw DennisOl: (Couldn't resist my warped attempt at humor, Claire.) ThomasLev: Happy Epiphany too Dennis NinaTL: I don't have emails for those guys EBobB: When asked about "Googling", Bush said he prefered a "Dont ask, dont tell" policy. ClaireB: sorry i'm so literal, dennis,lol ClaireB: happy new year to all RitaZ: michaelc@chariot.net.au DennisOl: And it's Happy Christmas Eve to those who celebrate on the old (Julian) calendar, Tom! VanceS: happy new year claire EBobB: Well, I am outta here, before Bush reads my last comment and cuts my high speed off. DennisOl: http://www.d-oliver.net/Rozhdestvo/ MoiraH: lol Bye Bob VanceS: happy islamic new year coming up shortly RitaZ: jonathan@learningtimes.org RitaZ: there you are, Nina ;-9 EBobB: Bye all. RitaZ: bye, Bob DennisOl: Take care, EB. Always great to jaw with you. VanceS waves to all departing EBobB left the room (signed off). MoiraH: brb VanceS: with experience, you manage to get those off while the person is still here DennisOl: Right, Vance. And Armenian Christmas will be on Jan. 19th in Jerusalem, but it's today in most other parts of the world. RickRo: Tchao! RickRo: for now VanceS: Gesundheit DennisOl: I was at a party once where there were lots of Greeks and Russians. ThomasLev: We Old Beleivers celebrate all twelve days of them NinaTL: I am adding people one at a time (grrr) DennisOl: When things started to get lively, a Greek said "Yassou!" DennisOl: And a Russian said (looking down his nose) "Gesundheit!" DennisOl: true story DennisOl: But the Old Believers start their celebration today and extend it to January 19th. RickRo: I have to take off too. Anyone in Cairo for the AUC conference next week? VanceS: now, in BKK for FLNW VanceS: no I meant DennisOl: I'm sure it'll be a terrific conference, Rick. Enjoy! VanceS: I'm supposed to be in Sudan now ThomasLev: actually I'm an old mistaken beleiver VanceS: but that doesn't seem to be happening DennisOl: Tom: LOL! DennisOl: Luvit! RickRo: Shukran--you better get walkin' Vance i'ts a ways! ClaireB: vance, are you in sudan? RickRo: Waves NinaTL: OK I've added successfully: Moira, Michael, Paula, Rick, Jonathan, Tom, Rita, Vance, Bee and Claire ThomasLev: so the twelve days start today? VanceS: no, visa has one more day to materialize VanceS: rebooked to fly Tue NinaTL: It wanted commas (blush) VanceS: but I don't think it will appear NinaTL: What about Carla A? RickRo: Thanks Nina--what a crew! DennisOl: She'll be there. ClaireB: why not, vance? RickRo: Waves DennisOl: As far as I know. DennisOl: Chau, Rick! RickRo left the room (signed off). ClaireB: bye rick DennisOl: Tchau, I mean. VanceS: it's this part of the world claire NinaTL: Can anybody remember how to get my profile off the blog? RitaZ: so Clari, you'll be in TESOL? ClaireB: well, my part of the world ain't all that efficient either VanceS: that's true claire, as I found out in California ClaireB: i will be at tesol for at least one day. NinaTL: I thought it would disappear when I added all the authors but it didn't ClaireB: how about you, rita? VanceS: it's your blog Nina VanceS: you own it RitaZ: hopefully then we'll meet f2f this time!!! VanceS: created it ClaireB: yes, i hope so NinaTL: But I don't want to own it so publically NinaTL: It's a collaborative blog RitaZ: I guess you cant, Nina NinaTL: I know there must be a way to "not show profile" VanceS: unless you fiddle with the template ThomasLev: go into html NinaTL: because I have otehr blogs without my stupid profile on them VanceS: if you can find where the profile info displays ThomasLev: & wipe it out ClaireB: i just received your invite, nina; thanks NinaTL: I am sure I never did that! VanceS: as Tom is suggesting NinaTL: yw Claire ClaireB: it's ok to have your profile, isn't it? VanceS: credit where credit is due DennisOl: Nina: Can't you go to "Edit my profile" and uncheck "Share my profile"? NinaTL: OK I got it NinaTL: Template, remove page element RitaZ: congrats, Nina! NinaTL: Done DennisOl: Yes, you can certainly do it that way. That's actually a better way. NinaTL: I just want to pick a different skin DennisOl: clap clap clap clap clap RitaZ: though I would have appreciated seeing your profile NinaTL: I can't understand why sometimes blogger offers about 3x as many skins as other times NinaTL: Sometimes I get choices about different colors too NinaTL: but today, on this PC, it's very limited :-( DennisOl: I can't understand why some of the skins are so incredibly UGLY! NinaTL: Me either Dennis MoiraH: back again :-) DennisOl: WB, Moira! NinaTL: I like them simple and colorful NinaTL: wb Moi DennisOl: Me, too. RitaZ: now we have work ahead. Let's start adding names of restaurants, guys, for our first dinner together on April 1st NinaTL: I liked last year's blue and green NinaTL: Make that cheap restaurants! DennisOl: Great idea, Rita. MoiraH: Hubby and son have just driven off for England DennisOl: And definitely cheap restaurants! MoiraH: when is the webhead meeting planned? NinaTL: Or maybe a party in our apartment? VanceS: well done Nina (was in potty) MoiraH: even better Nina NinaTL: It's tentatively 1 April NinaTL: haha vance NinaTL: It's my webhead spirit peeking out RitaZ: good idea, Nina!!!! RitaZ: a party in our apt! DennisOl: The convention proper starts the 2nd and ends the 5th of April. NinaTL: I just hope I can be there on Tuesday night ThomasLev: I have a sister in NYC RitaZ: well, Nina, we can make it on April 2nd as well ThomasLev: world-famous klezmer musician RitaZ: Michael suggested April 1st, if we are all there VanceS: Party at Tom's Sister's !! ThomasLev: I've already warned her about the webheads ClaireB: warned?? DennisOl: What's her name, Tom? ThomasLev: Margot DennisOl: April 1st for April Fool's Day? VanceS: what's her address? ThomasLev: http://klezmermountainboys.com VanceS: kidding!!! ClaireB: webhead alert webhead alert DennisOl: I really like klezmer music. RitaZ: lol Vance ThomasLev: her apt. would fit about two of us NinaTL: I'll go on a diet RitaZ: and ours, Nina...? MoiraH: you'd have to ask Paula about that really LRita as she knows them inside out and booked them NinaTL: probably miniscule, Rita ClaireB: sounds like a typical ny apartment NinaTL: before we start planning parties we should probably check it out RitaZ agrees DennisOl: Folks, I need to leave. RitaZ: take care, Dennis DennisOl: I've thoroughly enjoyed the session today--as usual. ThomasLev: take care, Dennis RitaZ: enjoy your week! ClaireB: take care, d RitaZ: you joining Bee later? NinaTL hugs Dennis DennisOl: Thanks, Rita, Tom, Claire. VanceS: cya Dennis DennisOl: Hope so, Rita. MoiraH hugs and wave to Dennis VanceS: what about me? DennisOl: Thanks, Nina! DennisOl: Thanks, Moira. DennisOl: Thanks, Vance. VanceS waves to try and get Dennis's attn but there are too many people ClaireB: is bee doing something later? something from australia? DennisOl: hee hee hee DennisOl: Blogspot Salon. ClaireB ignoring vance RitaZ: Blogstream Salon, at TI ClaireB: what time? DennisOl: and on that cheery note . . . . DennisOl: POOF! MoiraH: yes and she's including it in her blog EVO session RitaZ: 9 pm GMT, I think DennisOl: Dennis vanishes into the cybersphere. DennisOl left the room (signed off). DennisOl joined the room. DennisOl left the room (signed off). RitaZ: wb, dear dennis! RitaZ . o O ( too late... ) VanceS: checking out ML and the KMB's on YouTube RitaZ: I'm also leaving, folks, will start completing our nyc blog later..., hugs all!!! MoiraH: Bye Rita :-)) NinaTL: See you soon Rita NinaTL: have a great day! VanceS waves RitaZ: (this is getting exciting!) NinaTL hugs Rita VanceS hugs RitaZ hugs ALL (Vance included!!) VanceS: that's a rocking Klezmer band NinaTL: I am trying to enter all of my wikis into my.pbwiki.com NinaTL: Why doesn't it work??? RitaZ left the room (signed off). ThomasLev: if we give Margot the restaurant requirements (cheap, midtown, etc.) I'm sure she'll have suggestions ThomasLev: thanks NinaTL: I will create a wiki too MoiraH: a great idea Tom MoiraH: go ahead Nina! NinaTL: Yes, great idea! MoiraH: Are you going to be tehre Vance? MoiraH: there VanceS: I'm not planning to VanceS: but there are certain other forces at work MoiraH -(((( that's what you said last time ;-) VanceS: light teaching load VanceS: this coming term VanceS: plus I'm supposed to give a talk in Exeter VanceS: and one in NYC VanceS: but both have been arranged for online VanceS: but of course I'm THINKING VanceS: in view of the light teaching loads MoiraH: yes, you're on holiday now right? I'm just finishing writing my exams and then will be giving them and then marking them VanceS: they're just days apart VanceS: yeah, graduation last night, day off today MoiraH: lucky you VanceS: anyway the timing of a request to do what I am thinking would be a part of the equation ThomasLev: that's why they call it Epiphany ThomasLev: maybe MoiraH: well, if I understand correctly, I hope you get your maths right and are there :-)) VanceS: is it math? Maybe that's the problem VanceS: I was never much good in math ClaireB: vance, do you plan to go to worldcall? MoiraH: that's why I'm not sure whether I understood correctly ;-) VanceS: I have put in a proposal ClaireB: yes, i know VanceS :-) ClaireB: proposals are still in review ThomasLev: where is worldcall? VanceS: fukuoka ClaireB: august 5-8 ThomasLev: that would be fun ThomasLev: I"ve been to Shimonoseki VanceS: Wisconsin? NinaTL: Wow, pbwiki has a new feature for gmail users. You can import your whole address book from gmail and choose who to share the wiki with VanceS: google just rocks on NinaTL: I must admit I love google ClaireB: the new microsoft VanceS: heavy metal Klezmer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v/3kEkatWvxmo&l=277&t=OEgsToPDskJJKHNduEUGHIgEstZ2zURg&sk=SSoe5fjRpYZD-ICxCTgU5gC&sourceid=yw MoiraH: Ok, I'm going to love you and leave you now and say bye for now. It's been great speaking to you all again NinaTL: Before you go Moira VanceS hugs MoiraH: yep? ClaireB: great seeing you here, moira ClaireB: hugs NinaTL: the wiki is http://wia-in-nyc.pbwiki.com NinaTL: the key is "webheads" ThomasLev: thanks Nina! MoiraH: Wonderful Nina - Supersonic :-)) ThomasLev: I'll check out the klezmer too VanceS: It's actually pretty eclectic VanceS: jazz, metal MoiraH: bye then all MoiraH hugs and waves and leaves NinaTL: The people I've added so far are Rita, Moira, Vance, Rick, Tom, Dennis, Claire, Bee, and Michael ClaireB: so vance, are you going to tesol in ny? NinaTL: I forgot jonathan MoiraH left the room (signed off). VanceS: I'll paste what I told Moira in a private chat VanceS: to avoid repetition VanceS: I'll just paste it here to avoid hassle VanceS: VanceS: I'm not planning to VanceS: VanceS: but there are certain other forces at work VanceS: MoiraH -(((( that's what you said last time ;-) VanceS: VanceS: light teaching load VanceS: VanceS: this coming term VanceS: VanceS: plus I'm supposed to give a talk in Exeter VanceS: VanceS: and one in NYC VanceS: VanceS: but both have been arranged for online VanceS: VanceS: but of course I'm THINKING VanceS: VanceS: in view of the light teaching loads VanceS: MoiraH: yes, you're on holiday now right? I'm just finishing writing my exams and then will be giving them and then marking them VanceS: VanceS: they're just days apart VanceS: VanceS: yeah, graduation last night, day off today NinaTL: Well vance I for one hope to see you f2f not just online in NY VanceS: End of paste - and I also mentioned that I must time my request correctly NinaTL: and I am optimistic that it will work out VanceS: it's always good to see good friends NinaTL: My webhead friends are very special to me ClaireB: yeah, i saw the info before but still wasn't sure if it meant that you will be there or not ClaireB: webheads rock ThomasLev: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=146476745 VanceS: me neither (not sure) ThomasLev: check out this siberian band Vance NinaTL: OK guys I am going to have breakfast and start reading about special education law VanceS: checking VanceS: ?th special ed law? NinaTL: That's a long and sordid story you won't want to hear but we have a periodic review at my daughter's high school tomorrow NinaTL: wrightslaw.com NinaTL: I hope to see you all next week VanceS: throat singing? NinaTL: and look forward to collaborating with you on the wia-in-nyc blog and wiki ClaireB: bye nina and all; i need to leave also VanceS: ok, thanks for setting them up NinaTL hugs and airkisses the remaining hangers on ClaireB left the room (signed off). NinaTL: My pleasure! NinaTL left the room (signed off). ThomasLev: bye all! ThomasLev left the room (signed off). VanceS: like australian abo music VanceS: both use deeply resonant tubes VanceS: nice session, and great music at the URL above VanceS: bye VanceS left the room (signed off). 2008.01.06 06:37:30 Signoff